The Left and Fitna
09 April, 2008
FrontPageMagazine.com on April 09, 2008
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Abul Kasem, an ex-Muslim who is
the author of hundreds of articles and several books on Islam
including, Women in Islam. He was a contributor to the book Leaving
Islam – Apostates Speak Out as well as to Beyond Jihad: Critical
Views From Inside Islam. His e-mail address is
FP: Abul Kasem, welcome back to Frontpage Interview.
Kasem: Thank you Jamie.
FP: I would like to talk to you today about your thoughts on the
film Fitna and the Left’s response to it – especially in the context
of how Geert Wilders is being denounced for being truthful about the
connection between Islamic theology and Islamic terror.
First, tell us what you think of the new film.
Kasem: I think Fitna is done very cleverly. It lays the full
blame of Islamic atrocities to the fount of Islam, the Koran. Anyone
viewing this short movie will have no doubt that the Islamist
terrorism is the result of the Koran in action. Geert Wilders has
demonstrated very precisely what has plagued the world for many
years and why the Jihadists are doing what they are doing.
FP: Analyze for us the format that Wilders uses.
Kasem: Wilders uses only five verses of the Koran to demonstrate
the potential danger of Islam to a civilised world. These verses are
(note the comments by eminent Koran scholars):
8:60 The Muslims should muster all their power and might, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles…) to strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers (by killing them—ibn Abbas).
47:4 When the believers meet the unbelievers they should smite at unbelievers’ necks (when you fight against them, cut them down totally with your swords—ibn Kathir).
8:39 Fight until there are no more unbelievers (non-Muslims) and tumult (this verse overrides all other verses on fighting the infidels, including the Jews and the Christians); if they accept Islam then leave them alone.
4:56 Unbelievers will be cast in fire, their skins roasted often, skins changed often for more roasting (the skin will be roasted seventy thousand time every day; the new skin will be as white as paper—ibn Kathir).
4:89 Seize and slay the renegades (i.e., apostates of Islam) wherever you find them. (Maududi 4/118: This is the verdict on those hypocritical confessors of faith who belong to a belligerent, non-Muslim nation and actually participate in acts of hostility against the Islamic state).
It is clear Greet Wilders did not present anything original. He
merely re-stated the contents of the Koran, forcefully depicting,
with true pictures, those verses in action.
FP: So if this is what the Qur’an says, then why would Muslims or
anyone else be upset about the movie’s message?
Kasem: The Islamic Ummah is now furious why an infidel would
portray the true color of Islam. In this chorus of peaceful Islam,
Ban Ki-moon, the Secretary General of the United Nations, has also
joined in. Predictably, the peaceful Islam promptly issued the
threat of murder of Geert Wilders and the employees of Live Leak,
the website that hosted the premiere. It temporarily off-loaded
Fitna to protect the lives of its employees. These are just mundane
jobs of Islam—the standard practices, the world is now so used to
these peaceful acts of Islam that they [these threats] do not at all
Despite the threats, this short movie by Geert Wilders is
spreading like wild-fire. I knew this truth when my wife was so
eager to watch this film. She watched it at Google and was stunned
at what she read and saw. When an ordinary house-wife becomes so
enthusiastic about the ‘true’, ‘peaceful’ Islam then it must be an
So, why the world’s political leaders (including Ban Ki-moon)
could not find what a simple-minded, average, unsophisticated,
uninformed (in Islam) housewife could so easily trace?
Amazingly, when every word, every picture in Fitna was
corroborated with verses from the Koran, these world-leaders never
mention the word Koran, instead, they blame the producer of the
movie for inciting hate. How strange: the Koran preaches the hate,
murder, genocide, but when the un-Islamic world quotes those verses,
it is not the Koran that preaches the annihilation of the
non-Islamic world; it is the fault of the un-Islamic world—why must
they quote those verses?
This defies logic. These same world-leaders will keep their
mouths shut when jihadists use many similar verses to justify the
complete annihilation of the un-Islamic world.
FP: What are some other teachings that inspire jihadis to wage
Kasem: There are many verses which bin Ladin and his ilk use to
perpetrate terror and slaughter on infidels and on not-so-good
Muslims. Here are a few:
2:156 Everything belongs to Allah, and everyone will return to Him.
3:75 Some people of the Book can be trusted with money; some cannot be trusted.
We might wonder why bin Ladin uses this verse. Let us read the
A man asked Ibn 'Abbas, "During battle, we capture some property belonging to Ahl Adh-Dhimmah, such as chickens and sheep.'' Ibn 'Abbas said, "What do you do in this case'' The man said, "We say that there is no sin if we confiscate them in this case.'' He said, "That is what the People of the Book said, that is, there is no blame on us to betray and take the properties of the illiterates (Arabs)—ibn Kathir.
3:103 Islam will draw together former enemies; do not practice sectarianism (Osama b. Ladin uses this verse and 61:4 to unite the Islamist jihadists).
4:52 None can help whom Allah has cursed.
9:14 Allah fights the pagans in the hand of Muhammad (i.e., God kills the unbelievers by the hands of the Muslims. It is more humiliating for the disbelievers and more comforting for the hearts of the believers that the believers kill the unbelievers with their own hands—ibn Kathir, ibn Abbas, Jalalyn). Fight them and cover them with shame (this verse applies to all Muslims, they must kill non-Muslims with their own hands—ibn Kathir).
61:4 Allah loves those who fight, like a brick wall, His cause. (Osama bin Ladin uses this verse to unite the Islamist jihadists).
JMB [Jamiatul Mujahidin Bangladesh], used the following verses to
justify their Islamic bombing and killing of Bangladesh’s
4:76 Believers fight for Allah; unbelievers fight for evil, so fight against the friends of Satan.
We might think this (JMB) outfit misinterprets the Koran. Let us
read what a modern Islamist, Maulana Maududi has to say:
This lays down a clear verdict of God. To fight in the cause of God in order that His religion is established on earth is the task of men of faith, and whoever truly believes can never shirk this duty. To fight in the cause of taghut (authority in defiance of God) in order that the world may be governed by rebels against God is the task of unbelievers in which no believer can engage himself (Tafheem ul Qur'an, commentary number 4/105).
4:71 Go forth to fight alone or in parties all together. (This means one raiding party followed by the next; or move forward all together, in one assembly—Jalalyn).
Note that these two jihdi organisations are using quite different
verses. What this means is that there are many hateful, savage,
barbaric and blood-curdling verses in the Koran; anyone can pick at
random to legitimise his slaughter operation.
Here are a few more verses from the Koran and their exegeses by
eminent Islamic scholars. These verses entice the Islamist jihadists
that they must kill non-Muslim with their own hands; they must not
wait for Allah’s punishment.
8:10 By sending angels (in Badr), Allah put Muhammad’s heart at rest. (It is more humiliating for the disbelievers and more comforting for the hearts of the believers that the believers kill the unbelievers with their own hands—ibn Kathir).
8:12 Strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers. (Allah will cast fear, disgrace and humiliation over those who defied his command and denied Muhammad—ibn Kathir); smite the unbelievers at their necks (i.e., behead the unbelievers—ibn Kathir) and cut off their fingers (cut off their heads, limbs, hands and feet—ibn Kathir. Terror means fear of Muhammad and his companions—ibn Abbas).
Why is it that the Ummah , the Islamic scholars, the Dhimmi world
(including the UN) remain silent when the Islamist killers use those
verses to defend their mayhem?
Whose fault is it—the jihadists’ or the Koran?
Even when an ordinary house-wife had no doubt what is the root
cause of all these Islamist terrorism, why must the world leaders
pretend not to face the reality? Why must they act so cowardly? Why
must they gratify Islam, when Islam wants to burn the entire world?
The world might want peace, but Islam does not. It wants to completely destroy the un-Islam, and declare the victory of Islam. So why must we not face the truth? Why must we please Islam? Does the world owe Islam a living?
FP: So what is your answer here?
Kasem: My answer is very simple: the Islamist terrorism emanates
straight from the founts of Islam: the Koran, ahadith sira and
sharia. The Jihadists are just acting according what these sources
have commanded them to do. It is just unfair and straight cowardly
to blame Geert Wilders and other critics of Islam who point out this
truth. The UN must denounce these sources of Islam. If the UN is
hesitant or not willing to do this, we do not need such a spineless
FP: Wait, what I was trying to get at is the psychology of the
Left here. I am asking about those in the West who blame Geert
Wilders and other critics of Islam who point out the truth about
Islam. Why does the UN, for instance, not denounce these sources of
Islam? What sense, for instance, does it make to get upset about the
exposé of female genital mutilation in the Islamic world and the
Islamic theology that upholds it? One would think a humanitarian
person would be more upset about the reality of female genital
mutilation and try to defend its future potential victims, rather
than get upset about its exposé? What is the mindset here?
Kasem: The westerners trying to defend Islamic barbarism are
simply ignorant about the true nature of Islam. For too long they
have been fed with the idea that Islam is a religion, just like any
other religion, such as Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. Their
logic is this: the Old Testament, the Vedas also has murderous
verses and barbaric provisions, so why blame Islam only? These
westerners simply forget that, except for Islam, all other
religions’ potency has expired. There is no country ruled by the
biblical laws. Ditto for Hinduism. But Islam is forever. There are
57 Islamic countries who form the OIC (Organisation of Islamic
Conference), and who dearly believe and strive to subject the entire
world to Islamic rule.
Thus the western politicians are caught in a quagmire. They dare
not criticise Islam, lest they offend these 57 Islamic countries (OIC),
and because the un-Islamic world, the western world, does not
denounce Islam, the Islamic world feels encouraged to propagate
Islam vigorously. The UN has fallen into this trap and it therefore
not only has just a lackadaisical attitude towards Islam, but a
loving relationship with Islam.
FP: What role does oil play?
Kasem: Oil money is definitely another important element in this
game of hide-and-seek with Islam. Many western countries sell modern
arms to the Arabic/Islamic world in exchange for oil money. Thus, it
will be inappropriate to criticise Islam if these western countries
want to secure the lucrative arms deals. To these political leaders
trade/money is more important to the western world than the damaging
FP: I mentioned FGM earlier. Your thoughts?
Kasem: On the FGM issue, it is simply astonishing that the UN,
the Women’s Rights organisation, the Human rights Organisation just
do lip service to eradicate this savage procedure. These
organisations often consider FGM as a cultural issue rather than
religious. But they are wrong. We have irrefutable proof that
Islamic law, Sharia supports male and female circumcision. Why is it
so difficult to admit this truth and blame Islam? Further, even if
it is culture, why must the civilised world tolerate such inhuman,
barbaric cultural practice? In many cultures there was/is also the
practice of human sacrifice. Should a civilised world accept such a
custom, just because it is cultural? I only wished the UN and the
Women’s rights organisation provide good answers for their silence
FP: At the moment, aside from some demonstrations in Pakistan,
the reaction to Fitna in the Muslim world appears to be pretty
muted. Right? How come?
Kasem: The Islamists are very clever. They know rather well that
denouncing Fitna is tantamount to denouncing the Koran. That is why
Geert Wilder was quite smart to directly link the Koran with the
global violence of Islam.
How could the Islamists denounce Fitna when every picture in the
movie is solidly backed up from the Koranic verse? How could they
simply dismiss those verses as fabrication and half-truth or no
We should also consider the current situation as the calm before the storm. This has happened during the first saga of Muhammad's cartoon. It took a quite a long time before we saw the wave of violent protests around the Islamic world. Ditto for the second cartoon saga. Give a few more weeks/months, we might see the fury of Islam, as it rages across the globe. This is 'peaceful' Islam, in theory and in action. Geert Wilder's transgression of Islam will not go unpunished. Islam will not let him live in peace.
FP: Abul Kasem, thank you for joining us.
Kasem: Thank you for joining us.
Abul Kasem is an Bengali ex-Muslim and academic. He has contributed in Leaving Islam - Apostates Speak Out and Beyond Jihad - Critical Voices from Inside. He has also written extensively on Islam in various websites and is the author of five e-Books: A Complete Guide to Allah, Root of Terrorism ala Islamic Style, Sex and Sexuality in Islam, Who Authored the Quran? and Women in Islam. Mr. Kasem leaves in Sydney, Australia. He can be contacted at email@example.com.